Undead vs ... Strategies

[Felixar]

Hello guys.. can some post here How to play (hero,build + units) on other races ? and mirrow ? THX.

[TBK.Goldy]

ahm... mby see pages 1-2,3...

[Flash]

best choice for 1st hero vs hum is dk. . . 2nd and 3rd hero depends on strategy..

@Flash Tod lost vs Lucifer @ LT (Luci played dl, Tod am)

LT is another story. on LT ud can fast exp and mass

[Sacred_Zd]

Best way to counter human air is to prevent him from making it in the first place.

I am not so sure if DL is good as a first hero vs human.
Maybe you will have the edge playing gargs, but what if human decides not to make air?
So I believe that DK is must.. Lich should come next. By playing those two heroes combined your chances are good coz you will win most of the battles before human makes his air.
By winning those few battles or even killing few units your heroes may be +1 level higher than his.
If you are so afraid of air than you should take panda as third. Even if human makes tanks panda is still really useful here.

I really don't know what options you have if there is no tavern on the map. Obviously DL.

About units, you can't play without fiends for sure. Gargs are good but it still depends on how much copters human is making.
Wyrms are really good. Their splash damage really pwns copters and you can micro more easily since they are harder to kill than gargs.
Destros are not a good choice vs copters but in case human has a lot of gryphons and DHR they will prove useful coz of magic immunity.

When playing..human should be pushed a bit harder, that way you will slow him down.
Camping in your base and creeping around the map brings no good.
+ make 2 shades... use one to follow human army and try to cj him.. with other prevent him from making another expand.

Conclusion: Easier said than done. But really...what choices you have. Sometimes you get lucky.

[Felixar]

OH thx a much i try it

[Flash]

vs hum learn to multitask. scout constantly or follow enemy hero with dk while farming with ghouls. you need to immediately react on hum expo plans. t2 is your worst enemy. most humans will crush you with t2 push, tr or will win anyway because they already made an expo. to avoid it you shouldn't wait with ghouls alone to t3 unless you are controlling the game. make fiends to support your ghouls quickly with web and burrow. gyro and gryphons are bad when they are numerious. catching air asap on t2 and early t3 will limit hum air numbers. panda 3rd vs gyro and tanks is good. alchemist or cl vs knights.

[Felixar]

Haha humans no more kill me.

[KaworuNagisa]

human air cant win against destroyers, human player needs...um anti air...

[pRiMe]

What, what ? Chopters = gg air units

[Weavel]

Destros with mana + panda = gg chopters

[pRiMe]

Ye if u can counter 20 chopters with 5-6 destros and watch out on panda to not get nuked with hammer and surrounded with knights.

[KaworuNagisa]

fiends man, fiends...

[Tito]

Tell me now, what from " if a human makes an early expansion, you can't win ", you can't understand? You can't fight with fiends against knights, you can't fight with destroyers against chopters.

[Tito]

You make expo you ****ing noob. Game is well balanced. Just kill the ****ing annoying paladin.
And get Dark Ranger as 2nd hero, she pwns human. Only a noob wouldn't take dr against human.

Well, DR is indeed good if you go rush after tr2, but do you really think ts good to rush into 4-5 towers at base/expansion? A good human player would never let you make an expansion. Unless you buy land and build 4 towers and a center to protect it and you stay there with whole army till its done. In that time, he would have another ( at least one ) expansion with milions, bilions of towers and you will get pwned by tanks.

Calling me a noob, wasn't so smart either, since I played w3 loong before, when you had better things to do, like going to school to learn the alphabet.

[[AoS]-Nomad_]

U make jus to ur sig Tito. haha lmao xD