Undead vs ... Strategies

[Tito]

But I was thinking of a perfect army

PERFECT ARMY?

Are you levoric? There is no such thing.

Remember, undead is the best in fights with low army, so don't wait for 100 limit and than attack, for example, human is much more powerfull then. So, constant fights would make you play with low number of units so you're gonna win. ( 3 heroes, 2 knigits and two priests < 3 heroes, 2 abos and a statue ), undead heroes are certanly the most powerfull into the game, so use thenm

[pRiMe]

Xaxaxa and Tito think he's the best so he has answer on everything xD
Just kidding ;]
Listen to Tito and u will learn much from his advices.
Use his strategies and advices practically against real player on server and u will gain expirience and touch how to play vs what and when.

[mestar.]

yep theres no perfect army except mass gryphons and mass chimaeras xD
just kidding ofc normal player will win you at early stage and wont let you make your perfect army whatever it is anyway..

[Jovic]

undead heroes are certanly the most powerfull into the game, so use thenm

bm sh tc?

[Flash]

dh, panda, warden?

[pRiMe]

No argues about which race is better and **** like that!

[firezero1]

undead realy have good heroes but...just like jovic say orc heros pwn...too much dmg from bm,hex and stun + tauren tank and sh heal him -.- pfff gg.Iam not noob and not pro but i cant think one think i can do when human comes with mass geri and grifins...fiends dont help gargs and destro get rape by geri and frost are too slow for mass mass geri...what to do?? you can just start crying

[Becko0]

Geri = Dragonhawk Riders or Flying Machines ?
Fiends do a extra DMG against griffs, so put something infront of them ( like abos for example) , use the web,
focus with your fiends ( upg their attack rate ) on the griffs and they are dying faster than BM kills whisps
And ofc Lich's nova and DK's coil are helping a lot too.

[TBK.Goldy]

undead realy have good heroes but...just like jovic say orc heros pwn...too much dmg from bm,hex and stun + tauren tank and sh heal him -.- pfff gg.Iam not noob and not pro but i cant think one think i can do when human comes with mass geri and grifins...fiends dont help gargs and destro get rape by geri and frost are too slow for mass mass geri...what to do?? you can just start crying

you have 2 solutions;

1. dreadlord (second hero) with sleep and aura + gargs; sleep some, focus gargs to attack air only, aura will tank

2. panda

[pRiMe]

If you go Dread lord then better for first hero.
Ghouls + sleep = hero surround and easy to rush.
Good player will know what to do,some players would use destro and fiends against gryphons and flying machines,web gryphons and focus them with lichs' orb and fiends while he would run back with his destroyers from flying machines.
All in all focus gryphs/knights,nuke heroes with coil and nova then return with destroyers to fiends so u can web flying machines...gg
For all of this u need micro,macro,good concentration which means...good skills.
Watch some undead vs orc/hu/ud/nelf replays and most important try all those strats against real players so u would learn and got that touch to think like your opponent so u would approximatelly know what's he gonna make against you so u can counter him and outsmart him...be one step in front of him.
If he start accusing you for maphacking (it always happened to me,nothing new) just take the screenshot just in case if he reports you.

[Tito]

Dl can be good as a second/third hero too. Sleeping heroes in battles can be a real pain in the ass.

[Flash]

dl first vs hum means slow ud, means hum with expo, means gg

[pRiMe]

I was talking about Dl against elfs and dk+lich+dl/cl against humans.

[wolf_mk]

best choice for 1st hero vs hum is dk. . . 2nd and 3rd hero depends on strategy..

@Flash Tod lost vs Lucifer @ LT (Luci played dl, Tod am)

[TBK.Goldy]

weren't we talking how to counter mass air with undead?