New TOURMANENTS maps

[Slayzer]

First of all before Flower there was no one to create instants so at least pay some respect to him. As for maps, same have been played for how long? year/two/more?
It's always good thing to get some new maps, if you don't like them simply suggest ones you think should be used for tournaments. I don't see whats the big deal.

[starsss]

Well as for me..
I'd rather playing standard maps as: ei sv ts az ai lr tm tr
maybe mv

[Spork]

it is because u r dumb and u know only to play on something u used to.

[Robert.Miles]

Spork stop spam ! Sry for non eng , Spork napisi da oces mape , nemoj da pises gluposti , sta sam ja duzan da igram idiotske mape koje niko ne igra !

[Robert.Miles]

@Slayzer There are tours before Flower , u just was on dota ... Tour mods were Spork , 4k.Peace , IMC , KENT ,Screamofhell ...

[Slayzer]

Probably, anyways although I do dislike some of the new maps, I'd still rather play new ones from time to time, if u have suggestions place maps in some thread and let ppl vote for maps they want to play. I think that is the most fair way...

[Robert.Miles]

Here ppl vote . That guy is losing !

[VanGogh]

Moved to Tournaments forum. This topic doesn't belong to off-topic, lol.

[efko.wbs]

Here ppl vote . That guy is losing !

what will happen if he will lose?

[Robert.Miles]

IMC TOLD me , if i have 51 % and he 49 % , maps will be deleted ! :P For now its 95 % for me and 5 % for him

[Flower]

This is not about me or you. Its related to Tournaments.

For your Information, I did not pick my own choice of maps...

This is a post where this topic was Discussed in Private within staffs. I am just showing you this for Info :

Here are some of the Listings of Maps used in all leagues :

1-ON-1

WC3CL: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, TS, AZ, WF, GL
MASTERS: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, TS, WF, GL
ESL: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, TS, AZ, PI2
SK: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, TS, GW, LT
ZOTAC: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, TS, AZ
WC3L: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, AZ, PI2
WCIP: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, AZ, PI2
WCO: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, FG, FT
WGS: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, AZ, PI2
F4G: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, TS, AZ, GW, 2R
IEL: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, TS, AZ, PI2, IA
IGL: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, TS, AZ, PI2
PTGL: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, AZ, PI2, US, LD
PTCL: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, AZ, PI2, US, LD
EPGL: TM, TR, EI, SV, AI, MV, TS, AZ, SD


2-ON-2

WC3CL: TM, TR, LT, GW, AV, GS, CG, GL
ESL: TM, TR, LT, GW, AV, GS, CG
SK: TM, TR, LT, GW, AV
WC3L: TM, TR, LT, GW, GS
WCIP: TM, TR, LT, GW, AV, CG
PTGL: TM, LT, GW, GS, SM
PTCL: TM, TR, SM

The ones in Bold and in Blue Colour are the new maps that have been newly added / intorduced in these leagues.

Briefings :

WF - Well Spring Forest
GL - Gul'Dans Legacy
PI2 - Plundre Isle 2
FG - Forgotten Garden
FT - FrostBite Trial
IA - Illadin's Arena
LD - Land Divided
SD - Snow Drop
SM - Silver Moon



I dont know whats Wrong in Doing it.

Me (As a Tournaments Moderator) To try and intorduce some new maps which are played in Different Leagues to our server Tournaments and I get all this Mess.

You know the old maps arent removed from Pool. So why not get used to these ones (atleast try them) or play on old maps itself if you wish so. No ones gonna ban you anyways.

Just beacuse you are Lazy in Trying them On you opend poll and now you want everyone else to support you. Its nothing wrong for me to host the Same EI TS TR TM SV for ages... Do you think i cant do that?

I just wanted to Improve this server a bit and I have seen where it leads to. ( Nothing but Problems ).

Those of you who wanna support me can always do it. For those who thinks against me "I will make tours with same old maps if you say so".

[Robert.Miles]

U re losing man ... No exuces sry !

[OrangeFury]

Fist of all Flower is the best guy i met on this server.His contribution,devotion,hard work for xpam community is immeasurable. Hes sacreficing his time to make this server better. He ogranised single handed big tournaments such as winter tour, ffa, and each sunday kift, not to mention instant tours that are played on daily basis. His idea to spice up and fresh map pool is great one, in pack you can find very quallity maps. Im afraid that some of you will see how mutch flower means to wc3 pg on this server once hes gone. I dont want to comment author, thats just bad manners... theres other way to express your opinion.

[Robert.Miles]

@Orangefury Another new player here ... U re here for some months and u dont have idea what is REAL XPAM COMUNITY,nowadays is bullshit ... I dont think anything bad about Flower , he is good in his job but that decision with for maps is unacceptable , we all told him (the most part of players) that maps sux and that he should delete them ... But he is acting like he is god here , that no one can touch him coz he is tour mod etc . About manners u dont know what happend in channel so keep your comments for yourself . As i said , he will lost this battle coz most part of players dont want this maps ... Maps : SV ,EI , TS ,AZ ,AI ,TM , MV , LR , TR ... 9 maps what u need more omfg , tell me if i forgot something , and now i have to play maps like DIRE WATERS omg i cant even creep lvl 2 and find some normal item on map !? Cheers guys !
P.S. Give me tour mod and we will have 10 instants per day ...

[Gnevus]

Its ok fury, we are not discussing Flowers contribution which we all are aware of how great it is. In my oppinion about maps i have to say that im not on either side of deleting maps or not. The point is that new maps are good for innovative players who are curious of seeing something new and bad for players who are skilled and trained for old map pool.
I will not discuss this too long, i will just give some propostion since new maps are really in mood. On Kift tournament you should let it out from map pool and keep starndard one such as: EI, SV, TS, LR, AI, AZ, TR, TM, and eventually add these new maps but later. Then, about instants, if you make 3 instants per day f.e. you should make 2 instants without new maps and 1 with every new map so we see how many of them will play and how many will not. Best way to find out. And about new maps you should repeat them on instants every third day, so you can introduce them slowly to public who is not aware of these new maps and for people who doesnt want to play them such as me. So the point is that i agree with you about introducing and playing new maps on tournaments but it should go a lot easier then its going at the moment. Only on each third day as i said should be made 1 instant tournament which will have all new maps and 2 with old map pool. On standard tournaments which are being played for 2 months with 32 slots you can put them there too. And for kift and daily instants they should have advantage of new map pool. Hope we will have some solution which will fit best to all. Just take it easy and it will be all right.
Regards.