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Mladenus
12th January 2010, 04:12 PM
I'd like to open a new poll-based thread about support hero. Here, we can discuss about support heroes, their advantages/disadvantages, maybe share new strategies. ;)

So, let's start!:cool:

TBK.Goldy
12th January 2010, 04:13 PM
rasta and lion best support

Mladenus
12th January 2010, 04:14 PM
I'll vote for Dazzle, it's my favorite, definitely! :)

Focused
12th January 2010, 04:22 PM
lion if u know how to play him ofc :D

-FeelMyPain-
12th January 2010, 04:23 PM
Lion

2nooby4u
12th January 2010, 04:26 PM
CM rocks!!Global mana rgnr aura,at all levels 20%(i think) slow from frost nova,stun 3,5 sec,dont mention she's ulty...Supporting like hell!!Only she's ms and hp at late game,just sucks.

CroWbaR
12th January 2010, 04:29 PM
CM rocks!!Global mana rgnr aura,at all levels 20%(i think) slow from frost nova,stun 3,5 sec,dont mention she's ulty...Supporting like hell!!Only she's ms and hp at late game,just sucks.

i love puck/lina

and i dont think necro fits the profile of a support hero. hes more of a carry. thats like saying tinker is support too :)

Mladenus
12th January 2010, 04:32 PM
I have the reason why I added Necro. :) Although, I myself play him as carry too.

@Nooby: Better learn English, than play DotA. "don't mention she is ulty". =)) It's her ulty. ;)

2nooby4u
12th January 2010, 04:40 PM
Lets make a big laugh about my english..Hohohohoho!!U're so funny Mladenguz..Hihihihi..

Mladenus
12th January 2010, 04:54 PM
I'm not the funny one, you are with your posts. :) Anyway, don't go offtopic.

Tecktonik.
12th January 2010, 04:59 PM
well imo necro is better !! heal ftw . i voted for him :)

.DeitY.
12th January 2010, 05:03 PM
rhasta definitly...one hex , 2 snakes trap,3 shackle,fuc op..

Intruder.CZ
12th January 2010, 05:04 PM
Did u ever think about Abadon as support? nop ? then u should think again...

Let me explain: Aphotic Shield - 200 bonus HP + aoe nuke + deleting debuffs - quiet nice baby siting skill
Death coil - decent cheap heal + also nuke - also good siting skill (as any heal)
Frostmourne - enemy slow + 10 ms and 40 ais buff for ally


since he is STR hero he can is semi tank as well so tanking and suporting combination.
well sure he dont have stun or any other true diseable but he have to be counted as support and as one of best imho

Also bane support? lina support? If u say so. Rotund is semi support imho (realy expensive heal, late game spam 3 heals>ulti and you are OOM) i prefer him as pure nuker. Rasta Dazzle FTW. Lion easy line dominating

BTW best support is ghost scepter only this item saves u from axes ulti ^^

Bonzy
12th January 2010, 05:06 PM
Dazzle , Lion , cm...

p.s. when you laugh at his English , you should firstly check your grammar mistakes like misspelling "crystal maiden" in the pool? :/

2nooby4u
12th January 2010, 05:15 PM
Omni too.Shiva,guinsoo,BoT..All what is needed for him.And,i dont see why others dont buy Refresher for him.Why not?2 repels,2 heals+dmg,and massive regen and armor to all around him +2.Great idea,huh? :)

vlade
12th January 2010, 05:17 PM
Best supporter for me is CM. Cm is best harasser, got slow + mana regen + stun.

Intruder.CZ
12th January 2010, 05:21 PM
Best supporter for me is CM. Cm is best harasser, got slow + mana regen + stun.

well she is good haras for sure.. but 2 nukes and she is in heaven


Omni too.Shiva,guinsoo,BoT..All what is needed for him.And,i dont see why others dont buy Refresher for him.Why not?2 repels,2 heals+dmg,and massive regen and armor to all around him +2.Great idea,huh? :)

if u play pure support and have money for all of this...then game is ended 35min ago or u are cheating ^^

vlade
12th January 2010, 05:24 PM
Lol man, use edit..

Mladenus
12th January 2010, 05:32 PM
Did u ever think about Abadon as support? nop ? then u should think again...

Let me explain: Aphotic Shield - 200 bonus HP + aoe nuke + deleting debuffs - quiet nice baby siting skill
Death coil - decent cheap heal + also nuke - also good siting skill (as any heal)
Frostmourne - enemy slow + 10 ms and 40 ais buff for ally


since he is STR hero he can is semi tank as well so tanking and suporting combination.
well sure he dont have stun or any other true diseable but he have to be counted as support and as one of best imho

Also bane support? lina support? If u say so. Rotund is semi support imho (realy expensive heal, late game spam 3 heals>ulti and you are OOM) i prefer him as pure nuker. Rasta Dazzle FTW. Lion easy line dominating

BTW best support is ghost scepter only this item saves u from axes ulti ^^

Consider Aba as supporter? Yes, I did. He's melee, which makes him 0 harasser, bad attack animation for melee hero, no disable. It's semi-role hero. As the matter of fact, he can be good carry, as well. But I don't look him that way. :)


Dazzle , Lion , cm...

p.s. when you laugh at his English , you should firstly check your grammar mistakes like misspelling "crystal maiden" in the pool? :/

Hmm... Didn't notice that, at all. Nvm, people understand it.

0wnage
12th January 2010, 07:23 PM
For me Necro is best ;)

Gyggs123
12th January 2010, 07:32 PM
none.....cuz they allways die first ....

mILOSbRE
12th January 2010, 07:32 PM
Necro is more tank then support (in ss no chick no wards from necro :) )

Lion best support,reason why maiden is not first on my list is because she die easyer then others supports (btw all supports die alot :D)

Majestic.
12th January 2010, 07:39 PM
Where is Warlock? Warlock and Dazzle are the best babysiters, wtf? Warlock because of great harrasing skills and dazzle because of grave.

[YuMa]EMPEROR
12th January 2010, 07:49 PM
Omni too.Shiva,guinsoo,BoT..All what is needed for him.And,i dont see why others dont buy Refresher for him.Why not?2 repels,2 heals+dmg,and massive regen and armor to all around him +2.Great idea,huh? :)

FARM THAT PLS


@topic
wl,sp,cm

2nooby4u
12th January 2010, 07:54 PM
EMPEROR;1058479']FARM THAT PLS


@topic
wl,sp,cm

Main meaning what i was sayed it's Refresher.I don't see much people who takes Refresher to Omni.

[^RawR^]
12th January 2010, 08:02 PM
No Warlock in pool? LOL
Also, necro, bane, puck and rhasta aren't supporters.

JoLpAz
12th January 2010, 08:35 PM
wl :>

[-NoNick-]
12th January 2010, 09:54 PM
CM personal favorite
p.s. playing rhasta as support is waste
lion is more ganking orientated

vlade
12th January 2010, 10:47 PM
Warlock not in pool xD
Rhasta playing like support sux,bane too..

Mladenus
12th January 2010, 10:47 PM
Where is Warlock? Warlock and Dazzle are the best babysiters, wtf? Warlock because of great harrasing skills and dazzle because of grave.

LoL! I can't believe I forgot to put Warlock on the list... :eek:


none.....cuz they allways die first ....

That makes them supporters. Go play 5 tank or 5 carry team then...


;1058563']CM personal favorite
p.s. playing rhasta as support is waste
lion is more ganking orientated

Well, I wouldn't waste my time making threads such as "The best initiator" or something, instead I'd put thread "The best tank" and I'd add some initiator heroes. I can't go into sub-class so much. Anyway, speaking of different gameplays, I saw many times carry Warlock or Dazzle, but that doesn't make them carry heroes. I'm saying there are different types of usage of some hero. So, I couldn't be more objective than this, cuz it's thread opening.

@ALL: Please, try to distance from the comments such as "Some hero is not supporter", "Some hero is more better for this, than that". If you have decent opinion, share it, otherwise, don't bother to write here. Thanks in advance.

Dark-
12th January 2010, 11:32 PM
lion.

Mladenus
12th January 2010, 11:42 PM
Can't believe no1 likes Dazzle........ :( :( :(

You guys realize the potential of that hero?

vlade
12th January 2010, 11:46 PM
dazzle sux for me xD

Shoocky3V
12th January 2010, 11:49 PM
lion ofc

Focused
12th January 2010, 11:57 PM
go go go
vote lion and he will win , get a big shiny icon and rank 1 .. 200 gold and skills ... random player gets a LIFE
go go go

Alfis
13th January 2010, 12:08 AM
I voted Lion, although I like to play Rhasta or Iron Maiden (pun) more :D
I enjoy using their spells more, but from what I've seen in-game, Lion is better supporter.

Mladenus
13th January 2010, 12:46 PM
dazzle sux for me xd

l2p

TBK.Goldy
13th January 2010, 01:49 PM
Troll also good sapport. He a blind on enemy, and ulti. Smash smash range. Ally kill enemi gg.

demon-storm
13th January 2010, 01:59 PM
fail thread.
+1
They didn't even put all suporters in pool. Secondly you missed the suporter with the most powerful stun in game, that give huge map advantage with his abilities, Techies.

.DeitY.
13th January 2010, 03:02 PM
Well,u can suggest making a new one,on your clan forum,these are the supporters which are most imba for Mladenus..his thinking..

2nooby4u
13th January 2010, 03:44 PM
+1
They didn't even put all suporters in pool. Secondly you missed the suporter with the most powerful stun in game, that give huge map advantage with his abilities, Techies.

True,techies is one hero of supporter.But,tell me.Who pick him in some cw,tour or priv?Huh?Mladenus choses heroes who are mostly picked in serious games.Techies?Not..Now go play some pub apem RO Godzzzzzz,and dont comment with stupid posts.

[-NoNick-]
13th January 2010, 04:29 PM
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/26144

.DeitY.
13th January 2010, 04:59 PM
;1058958']http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/26144



And that is...? Too lazy to open and put it in w3 replay folder -,-

ArtecK
13th January 2010, 05:06 PM
necro ofc.

[YuMa]EMPEROR
13th January 2010, 05:09 PM
;1058972']And that is...? Too lazy to open and put it in w3 replay folder -,-

xD

[-NoNick-]
13th January 2010, 05:22 PM
;1058972']And that is...? Too lazy to open and put it in w3 replay folder -,-

In that case you will never find out

.DeitY.
13th January 2010, 05:25 PM
Well,u posted a link to it,i dont even care about it :)

JoLpAz
13th January 2010, 05:26 PM
its replay where yamateh plays techie! me prooo kthx!1

Mladenus
13th January 2010, 05:32 PM
+1
They didn't even put all suporters in pool. Secondly you missed the suporter with the most powerful stun in game, that give huge map advantage with his abilities, Techies.

Listen up. I'll tell you this way. You are more than fucking idiot, if you think about Techies being best supporter. Go fuck yourself with Techies, freaking miserable nolifer (Why I said this? Answer: This is the guy who would like to play DotA with Techies in his dying hours). Enough said. You annoy me so much with your Techies saying stuff. From now on, this clan forum is forbidden for you. Any your post here will be deleted.

Think about that this way: You are too smart for us to hang on with you.


;1058931']Well,u can suggest making a new one,on your clan forum,these are the supporters which are most imba for Mladenus..his thinking..

This, I must say once more, I forgot to add Warlock.


;1058958']http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/26144

One replay doesn't have to mean a thing. KS are my favorite team, I watched that replay already, but this really doesn't prove anything. Btw, I'd suggest to everyone to watch the replay, it was cool game.

.DeitY.
13th January 2010, 05:34 PM
haha,techies sucks in privates,maybe in early game do something,midgame maybe,but lategame sucks,low lvl,items.

Mladenus
13th January 2010, 05:35 PM
Shall we NOT discuss about Techies, please? Thanks!!!

vlade
13th January 2010, 05:35 PM
Not rly. Techies with agha is imba. His ult is IMBA.

.DeitY.
13th January 2010, 05:39 PM
L2P with techies,u need about a lot of training with him..

vlade
13th January 2010, 05:47 PM
Yes, u need :)). I dont need :D

Tito
13th January 2010, 06:14 PM
This is a dota clan right?

JoLpAz
13th January 2010, 06:32 PM
yes : )

paiNISTHESHIT
13th January 2010, 06:50 PM
Atropos own ALL, rahsta is rly good too :)..

[^RawR^]
13th January 2010, 07:59 PM
Demon-storm ure talking too much for an unknown noob

AnaMiro
13th January 2010, 08:22 PM
rhst ofc in my opinion and atro too. Both can CC (crowd control) after getting orcid and the hex items. Also i atro can cc 5 heros :)

.DeitY.
13th January 2010, 08:45 PM
allright guys,stop flaming,we are not gonna alowe any flames here,chill...we all say what we tihnk,noone is 100% sure...Theres no need for that talks..

Majestic.
13th January 2010, 10:38 PM
rhst ofc in my opinion and atro too. Both can CC (crowd control) after getting orcid and the hex items. Also i atro can cc 5 heros :)

U iz pro cc :tiphat:

Mladenus
14th January 2010, 12:32 PM
rhst ofc in my opinion and atro too. Both can CC (crowd control) after getting orcid and the hex items. Also i atro can cc 5 heros :)

Your first post on the forum is here. Hehe. :D

@Born: Less sarcasm, please. :)

Tito
14th January 2010, 03:15 PM
Okay, since this is a dota clan, you must relise, if play heroes like necro, lina, puck, rhasta added as supporters, you should add there too heroes like qop, batraier, zus etc.

.DeitY.
14th January 2010, 04:06 PM
Well,he meaned the support heroes which are ussualy played with...those are recently used..Hes not gonna add every possible supporter.

Mladenus
15th January 2010, 12:22 AM
Okay, since this is a dota clan, you must relise, if play heroes like necro, lina, puck, rhasta added as supporters, you should add there too heroes like qop, batraier, zus etc.

Listen, I added the most played intelligence heroes. I already mentioned that earlier. Anyway, if you don't have anything smart to say, you don't have to write here. And don't lecture us about how heroes should be played or something. We don't need your "smartness".

NOe1
15th January 2010, 12:27 AM
imo best sup hero is rawr.

[-NoNick-]
15th January 2010, 12:34 AM
/thread
:DDDDDDDDD

Mladenus
15th January 2010, 11:36 AM
One question! Can anyone explain me why no1 votes Dazzle? Only 5 votes for one of the most dominant supporters in DotA...

Focused
15th January 2010, 12:15 PM
One question! Can anyone explain me why no1 votes Dazzle? Only 5 votes for one of the most dominant supporters in DotA...

i played dazzle yesterday .. about 20 or so assists :D
personally .. i will pick lion over dazzle because of stun and hex and the all might ulti :)

C0RS0
15th January 2010, 12:20 PM
chen, cm, warlock :blink:

pec
15th January 2010, 12:45 PM
i voted dazzle :3
but dunno there was no chen

.DeitY.
15th January 2010, 01:24 PM
dazzle -25 armor to enemys ftw,+ heal with meka and his magic...but u need skill for him :)

Mladenus
15th January 2010, 02:37 PM
Shallow grave + nice slow + nice heal + one of the best harassing makes him perfect supporter!

BloodMen
15th January 2010, 03:44 PM
i played dazzle yesterday .. about 20 or so assists :D
personally .. i will pick lion over dazzle because of stun and hex and the all might ulti :)
focus w3-dota sux.....

.DeitY.
15th January 2010, 09:23 PM
We are talking here in any game,not just in priv or pub...

-KaMiKaZa-
15th January 2010, 10:25 PM
Rasta rulles !! :d

Majestic.
15th January 2010, 10:29 PM
De zatvorite ovo, mnogo no-brainera glasa... ^^

P.S. Sto pool nije public? (Mislim, sto ne mozemo da vidimo ko je za sta glasao...)

.DeitY.
15th January 2010, 11:48 PM
To pitaj Mladenusa,on je ovo otvorio,a sto se tice glasova,vala rylai preovladjue...zar nije rhasta bolji od CM -,-

-Your-Friend-
15th January 2010, 11:59 PM
Ja glasam za Liona ofc on mi je favorite

Mladenus
16th January 2010, 02:16 AM
;1060328']To pitaj Mladenusa,on je ovo otvorio,a sto se tice glasova,vala rylai preovladjue...zar nije rhasta bolji od CM -,-

Zavisi od tima i od situacije, negde je CM > Rhasta, a negde je Rhasta > CM.

.DeitY.
16th January 2010, 11:01 AM
Ma ne mikile,vazan je skill,jbs situaciju,ako je neki nab,gg :D

-KaMiKaZa-
16th January 2010, 01:42 PM
da ali 1v1 rashta > CM uvjek :)

Mladenus
16th January 2010, 02:34 PM
1v1 isn't for supporters.

-KaMiKaZa-
16th January 2010, 02:39 PM
yeah but make hex for rhasta...u disable 3 heroes(2 hex and chackles) and then serptents can pwn all..CM's ulty is chaneling..whaat she can do...shes good but rhasta is better in my opinion :)

.DeitY.
16th January 2010, 04:54 PM
Mi pricamo ovde o 5v5...ovo je samo figurativno da vidimo kako ljudi misle.

Mladenus
16th January 2010, 05:03 PM
-KaMiKaZa-;1060487']yeah but make hex for rhasta...u disable 3 heroes(2 hex and chackles) and then serptents can pwn all..CM's ulty is chaneling..whaat she can do...shes good but rhasta is better in my opinion :)

You told everything. I mean, what can she do... You're correct, I have nothing more to say.

Shoocky3V
16th January 2010, 08:10 PM
Rhasta - She ? Mladenus kolko si pio sinoc, nocas i zadnjih dana :D

Mladenus
16th January 2010, 08:20 PM
Quotovao sam ga. Pogledaj sta je napisao. Jeste da pijem, ali znam sta pricam. :D

Aeross
16th January 2010, 08:38 PM
Ako stvarno svrstavate rhastu, puck-a, necra u supportera onda je to strasno. Imho delete ovaj thread sto pre da neko ne vidi ovo. Veci ti je support/gang venge od necra/rhaste/pucka.

Sto se tice titovog reply-a, hteo je samo da vam pomogne a ne da lupetate gluposti bzv...

Mladenus
16th January 2010, 11:34 PM
Ja necu da objasnjavam ponovo 10. put zasto sam ovakve heroje stavio u thread. Buduci da je ovo public thread, i da je svima dozvoljeno da glasaju, stavio sam par int heroja u poll i to je to. Zamorno bi mi bilo da stavim Venge ili Miranu ili Abu i da dodje pubber i krene da maze thread. Nisam mislio da ce da naidju smartasses, poput vas pojedinih i da jedu govna kako je thread neralan. Definitivno ima par heroja koji su super supporteri, bolji nego bilo koji drugi izostavljeni, pa izvolite i glasajte za njih. Rekao sam vec jednom, ako imate da kazete nesto pametno, recite, ako nemate, mrs u kurac na neki drugi thread, pa se ulizujte medjusobno jedni drugima i pricajte o svom skill-u. Ne zelim vise da se ponavljam.

-KaMiKaZa-
17th January 2010, 01:43 AM
hehehehe...ljepo receno mladenus :)

Alfis
17th January 2010, 03:08 AM
Aeross, prihvati poraz. Mladenov guz te skurio, i sad budi muško i nemoj više postat u ovaj thread.

.DeitY.
17th January 2010, 08:11 AM
Vidim ja ovde mnogo debila nesto pricaju...
@Aeross,ownao te,bolje cuti i pokri se po usima,i ne javljaj se.

@sladjan,sledeci put kada otvorimo poll,stavicu da bude private,i lepo da normalni ljudi glasaju,a ne maloumna deca koja mi kenjaju ceo dan da stavim miranu abba warlocka...Da on moze da se seti SVAKOG SUPPORT HEROJA on BI STAVIO,ALI COVEK JE STAVIO ONE HEROJE STO SE NAJVISE KORISTE.AKO HOCETE DA STAVITE JOS HEROJA,LEPO OTVORITE VI POLL PA STAVLJAJTE TE VASE HEROJE KOLIKO GOD HOCETE.

Za sad ovo ide close,dok nam ne dodju pravi ljudi koji znaju da pricaju gameplay,item build itd..

:tclosed: