State of the union - 2018

[Cen]

With Blizzard recently releasing patch 1.29 it is time to address how things stand. Eurobattle.net is currently in a peculiar situation which is not really good to be in.. :dry:

Dota 6.88X support
Since Icefrog stopped developing DotA the only active branch of the map is d1stats (there are a few more knockoffs but not worthy of mention). Unfortunately since version 6.88 the map only works on W3 1.26 because it exploits a vulnerability in W3 engine that was later patched. Why not just switch to 1.26 and stay there you ask? Because we also want to keep in sync with official servers so people can join cross-realm bots like ENT. There are also welcome improvements to the game in recent patches which we don't want to miss out on (map sizes, number of players etc).

We have restarted work on client/bots/gproxy to support switching between W3 versions on the fly and use DotA 6.88 for official leagues. We are currently roughly at 70% of the way there and we expect to release a beta for testing in the following month if all goes to plan. Support for W3 1.26/Dota 6.88 is now #1 priority and other tasks were put on hold.


1.29 support
Eurobattle.net is a PvPGN server which relies on w3l loader to make some changes to W3 executable and allow the game to connect to our server. Unfortunately there were some major changes in the way W3 executable is built by Blizzard in 1.29 and loader needs quite a bit more work than usual. Project is hosted on GitHub. (https://github.com/w3lh/w3l)

Unfortunately the main developer did not yet commit to update the loader and we can't update the server to 1.29 before loader is ready. If nobody ports the loader we will have to do it ourself and since it's not the nicest piece of code we don't know how much time that would take us.

1.29 support is therefore on hold until we find the time to start porting the loader and is second in priority to 6.88 support. However, if loader gets ported by someone we will update the server ASAP.



Since we are short on coding manpower I can't give any realistic timelines when things will actually be ready for public release, I just wanted to inform about the current situation and what we are currently working on.

[imbalod]

Unfortunately since version 6.88 the map only works on W3 1.26 because it exploits a vulnerability in W3 engine that was later patched. Why not just switch to 1.26 and stay there you ask?
We wait for a pvpgn 1.26 patch, our community really miss the XPAM realm :tiphat:

LE: We played 7 years with 1.26 and all was fine no map issues, no probelms. Who wanna play 12v12 on 1.29 patch? :(
All those for a vulnerability in W3 engine, serious map makers don't exploit in a wrong way... and we use original maps.

[mehrdad2015]

We wait for a pvpgn 1.26 patch, our community really miss the XPAM realm :tiphat:

LE: We played 7 years with 1.26 and all was fine no map issues, no probelms. Who wanna play 12v12 on 1.29 patch? :(
All those for a vulnerability in W3 engine, serious map makers don't exploit in a wrong way... and we use original maps.


eurobattle servers never back again to 1.26 patch also blizzard doing great work relasee new version patchs for warcraft 3, but well i'm upset why still not add patch 1.29.2 to our eurobattle servers. also dont forget this in game or in real life In time, some things change, and over time you have to devote yourself to the changes...

[Silver.]

Well, 1.29 as of now causes a bit more problems, especially with 12v12 and resolution. Always needs fixing and they will tweak it a lot this year until they get it right.

It will come to our server too by the end of year, but i'd rather wait for a stable version and in the meantime bring 6.88 to players (1.26 patch) and keep 1.28.5 at the same time.

Two versions, one server. Best movie ever. Hope you will see the fruits of Cen & Co's work.

[klee]

any updates on how the 1.29 patch is going?

[mehrdad2015]

when 1.29.2 patch Will be released for eurobattle ?
already 1.30 patch released from blizzard...
i'm tired really ....

[luke]

We don't have resources to work on the loader : https://github.com/w3lh/w3l

If someone will adjust it, we can upgrade the server asap

[klee]

Can you actually hit me up on discord kja12, Nexxus#4956, I'll try to help if it's in my powers, just tell me what's up

[mehrdad2015]

i have a idea maybe good idea .
for found anyone to work on loader you need send email to all memebers euro battle to found anyone... for sure with this work you found anyone:beer:

[Cen]

Server now supports W3 version 1.26 and 1.28 at the same time.

We successfully internally tested a new lagabuse bot on version 1.26 and DotA 6.88, so far without major problems. Now just need to polish up the client a bit and then we will release a public beta (1-2 weeks from now). When things are confirmed working we will move lagabuse ladder to DotA 6.88 and have a separate bot host custom games on latest w3 patch.

Latest w3 patch remains 1.28.5 for now but we will start working on 1.29 and 1.30 support fully as soon as dual version is out for public. There wasn't enough time and manpower to tackle both things at the same time.

Final goal: 1.26+Dota 6.88 for lagabuse (+SS) and 1.30 for custom games, PG and cross-realm bots (ENT etc)..

[KingLich]

1.30? has that even released? I thought the latest w3 patch was 1.29.2

[Cen]

1.30? has that even released? I thought the latest w3 patch was 1.29.2

It's in PTR right now but in my estimated timeline it will be released before we get w3l fixed up. 1.29 to 1.30 will probably be much easier upgrade tho so no matter which one it will be.

[-Black-]

Finaly some movement :)

[luke]

It looks like the recent lagabuse.com bots update fixed all maps which couldn't be loaded due to an invalid config: Castle fight, YouTD, Hero of the empire, Gaia's rpg and other

[klee]

any update on hows the patch coming? also I can't help with that stuff xd

[camban]

1.30 is out.

[Silver.]

1.30 is out.

Shock horror.

[camban]

If you mean the patch, yes it's absolutely a fail, idk why blizzard rolls out such garbage.

[mehrdad2015]

If you mean the patch, yes it's absolutely a fail, idk why blizzard rolls out such garbage.
your mean wc3 is garbage ??
if your mean this better dont play wc3 anymore and play other games.
you know why blizzard create new patchs for wc3 ? because wc3 is Popular and still have many player playing this game in the every day...
wc3 one of best Strategic games for ever !!

[Alone_MonaX]

your mean wc3 is garbage ??
if your mean this better dont play wc3 anymore and play other games.
you know why blizzard create new patchs for wc3 ? because wc3 is Popular and still have many player playing this game in the every day...
wc3 one of best Strategic games for ever !!
They are making the game more pay-to-play'like, like a paid service. Like most companies do. There is almost nothing about players loyality.
Have fun playing paid maps soon :-)

[camban]

what I said and what you understood. It is garbage because of the many bugs they did not care to think about, to few people play pg, most of us play dota legion and other maps, the lighting is terrible and many others. that's why it's garbage, go make warcraft 4 not stupid updates for a 100 year old game that noone plays. And I do play, I play only on ent. So stop being a kid. The point is I wanna play here because I have been here since 2006 . That's what I mean loyality.

[luke]

It is true that they broke many maps but mostly those which used hacky optimization, same as 1.28 broke all memhack maps. They simply can't consider all of the 10000 maps which were made by people who were sure warcraft 3 will never get any more updates. Such maps can still be played here though

[klee]

10k, pretty sure there are more than that cause at one point I had 6k maps in my war3 folder, that was 25gb something

[mehrdad2015]

long time ago (7 month) but still 1.29 patch not release??
when comming ??

[Silver.]

long time ago (7 month) but still 1.29 patch not release??
when comming ??

Priority was cross-patch, so people are able now to play custom maps & Dota 6.88.

As for 1.29, the project is fresh, as you are aware blizzard is moving up to a new patch that will render host bots null. Below Cen's statement about 1.29


1.29 support
Eurobattle.net is a PvPGN server which relies on w3l loader to make some changes to W3 executable and allow the game to connect to our server. Unfortunately there were some major changes in the way W3 executable is built by Blizzard in 1.29 and loader needs quite a bit more work than usual. Project is hosted on GitHub.

Unfortunately the main developer did not yet commit to update the loader and we can't update the server to 1.29 before loader is ready. If nobody ports the loader we will have to do it ourself and since it's not the nicest piece of code we don't know how much time that would take us.

1.29 support is therefore on hold until we find the time to start porting the loader and is second in priority to 6.88 support. However, if loader gets ported by someone we will update the server ASAP.

[Cen]

Since new w3 patches will probably break hostbot compatibility we are quite less enthusiastic about supporting 1.29 but I think it might still be worth doing to support big game lobbies (pretty much the only good thing 1.29 has vs 1.28). We will try to add the support but right now it's not a priority anymore.

[imbalod]

Since new w3 patches will probably break hostbot compatibility we are quite less enthusiastic about supporting 1.29 but I think it might still be worth doing to support big game lobbies (pretty much the only good thing 1.29 has vs 1.28). We will try to add the support but right now it's not a priority anymore.

if they break support for bots then the 1.26 patch must be the main xpam patch.

[mehrdad2015]

a question you already start work on loader for patch 1.29 or waiting for main developer to update the loader ??