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Cen
11th October 2011, 05:58 PM
COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE TO SPECTRE by Cen

Pre-read notes:
-this only works in pub ap noobs/pro eu
-I know more than you


1. Starting items
http://www.shrani.si/f/u/NC/4Ut6VJiq/items.png
Explanation:
-quelling blade to farm better, also to have fun with trees
-...I really don't have to explain tangos and others..

1.5 Skill build
-max dagger and desolate until ulti at lvl 6
-after you max first 2, go dispersion
-keep ulti at lvl 1 until only stats left... because ulti in early and mid game really is only good for transport and nothing else..
-dispersion in early has no real usage, that's why you max it as third

2. Early Item build
By the min 15 your items should look like this:

http://media.playdota.com/items/91/icon.jpg - Phase Boots on spec are a must! You think dagger slows enough? You are wrong! Phases are imba for chasing and also to go through crowded area of creeps and heroes when chasing that 1 HP bitch who wants to escape. Just ignore all enemy heroes and run through.. gg.

http://media.playdota.com/items/97/icon.jpg 2x. Just to have some HP so you don't die instantly.. also replacement for vanguard. A lot of ppl buy vang on spec but guess what? They are wrong! Vang does not work with dispersion, worst item ever..srsly.


Some of the items for diffusal. (you suck at farming so you don't have diffusal at this time yet. Comprende?

3. Items for mid and late game
http://media.playdota.com/items/84/icon.jpg - most imba item on spec ever. Not only you have slow with dagger and phases, you also buff the enemy. No chance to escape. Also to get your team to help you since they're way slower than you are. After using all 8, rebuy.


And this is it.. everything beyond this is optional and depends on the game.. some suggests:
http://media.playdota.com/items/74/icon.jpg - to annoy the shit out of opponent
http://media.playdota.com/items/69/icon.jpg - showoff, also..you won't farm this in min 10 because you're too noob. it is also impossible unless you play against a retarded team or apem. Getting it after min 30 is kinda useless, so you might want to get some casual dmg/pwn item instead.
http://media.playdota.com/items/770/icon.jpg - imba with dispersion..because you can play spec as a tank.


4. Early gameplay
-http://www.shrani.si/f/1w/3G/2HRlUZLK/rune.png you check top rune if scourge..obviously
-farm
-use your quellin blade wisely! here are some tips
http://www.shrani.si/f/t/sk/37L1exxM/1/quell.png
this is for sentinel side. You can apply similar technique on scourge top.
-if opposed by annoying veno or similar shitass hero, stay back
-do not die before level 6
-it's good to have annoying hero with you on the lane, so while he takes care of the enemy you free farm
-2v2 meele is a gg, exchange hits with no fear

5. Mid and late gameplay
-if you're underfarmed and 1/5 at minute 25, type !ff
-use ulti to help in ganks or ks
-farm
*note: ulti is also usefull if you're just about to die and you tp on another side of the map. Enemy heroes are usually not prepared for the swap so you might have a chance.

6. Enemies you can pwn
-Huskar, anytime, anywhere, 1v1 it's yours. If he ulti he'll receive 22% back instantly.
-almost any intelli
-slow fat tanks

7. Worst enemies
-heroes like bala at night or bara with that stupid aura... these still have chance to escape from you if you chase.
-pro veno on your lane.. worst ever

8. Good allies
-Naix ulti on you +your ulti. 2v1 instant
-bara charge +you ulti
-invis who scout lone heroes, then 2v1
-any similar combination as above

7. Protips
http://www.shrani.si/f/1a/lV/3i29eMHj/escape.png
http://www.shrani.si/f/3T/Tt/VcdsOAa/dagger.png
-you don't ever go solo mid
-why bot lane? because it's the longest to chase enemy... if you're scourge you go top.


These were the most basic tips for all pubbers out there who suck with spec.


Hf

Kawasaky
11th October 2011, 07:14 PM
Cool. Good job !

VanGogh
11th October 2011, 07:38 PM
=)) Made my day. :D

Akhe
11th October 2011, 07:40 PM
i suck at spec, thx cen u to kind to share ur knowledge with us!

iStealSkills
11th October 2011, 09:47 PM
:rolf::rolf::rolf:

eSsex
11th October 2011, 10:54 PM
Good job , it's hard work to make a guide like this :)

GoodanGeL
11th October 2011, 11:10 PM
I enjoyed reading the guide. Also I didn't knew that Spectre can go through 2/or more cliffs :D

Congrats for the guide Cen. Now I can play my APEMSO RO GODZ ONLY!!

phaNtom
11th October 2011, 11:28 PM
Omg, dis Cen really prou :D

-KaMiKaZa-
11th October 2011, 11:59 PM
cen <3 :D

Majestic.
12th October 2011, 12:04 AM
n1 ken :)

DRG-
12th October 2011, 07:40 AM
nice 1 xD

GoodanGeL
12th October 2011, 08:07 PM
Bah Cen, put a replay with you Spectre.

Vaikiss
12th October 2011, 08:43 PM
i loled

radiance useless after 30 minute ? this is about time when spectre should get his radi and then unleash his full potential into the game (later on even more tho)

why theres no vanguard in this item builds lol vanguard is basicly core for spectre second most important item after radiance

[^RawR^]
12th October 2011, 08:55 PM
i loled

radiance useless after 30 minute ? this is about time when spectre should get his radi and then unleash his full potential into the game (later on even more tho)

why theres no vanguard in this item builds lol vanguard is basicly core for spectre second most important item after radiance

Calm down, I think it's a joke guide :>

Cen
12th October 2011, 09:41 PM
i loled

radiance useless after 30 minute ? this is about time when spectre should get his radi and then unleash his full potential into the game (later on even more tho)

why theres no vanguard in this item builds lol vanguard is basicly core for spectre second most important item after radiance

Nop. Vanguard will block attacks in 70% of cases, which means all the blocked damage will not disperse. Very bad stack.

As for the guide, it's partly a joke, but some stuff is meant serious.

[-NoNick-]
12th October 2011, 10:34 PM
If this wasnt "ap noobs/pro eu" guide, I'd say you are clueless.

Deadly_burek
12th October 2011, 11:08 PM
Vaikiss aka I-DONT-GET-THE-JOKE.

btw why is there no battlefury?

Vaikiss
13th October 2011, 12:08 AM
70% of psyhical attacks 40 dmg of melee and 20 dmg of range

but dispersion do not deal that much damage early game anyway

also survivability #1 with bracers and phase u would have ZERO hp regen and u would be forced to go back heal after couple nukes instead of just regening ur hp thx to ROH/vg


also doesnt matter what "game" do u play lol is it TRAPEMSO monkeys or / w/e higest "skill" games in xpam is its all about making most efficient item build in order to pwn and Win ur game




Vaikiss aka I-DONT-GET-THE-JOKE.

btw why is there no battlefury?


OXAOXAOXAOXA manz luk so funneh gudez he sei ju baj defuzal on spekter lolololol so funneh he sei ju bai randijantor spekter TOOO lolololol even moar funneh

mrniceguy
13th October 2011, 12:29 AM
As for the guide, it's partly a joke, but some stuff is meant serious.

Liar, this was all serious.

But anyway I loled.

P.S. you gave me idea, soon I will write "mng lichs guide ( you cant fail more than using this guide)" :D.

[^RawR^]
13th October 2011, 12:30 AM
Actually u can pretty easily tell that it's a troll guide since every 2nd sentence is wrong :D

eSsex
13th October 2011, 12:36 AM
At least he tried to make someting good and we should reconise is hard work :)

Congrats again Cen !

-KaMiKaZa-
13th October 2011, 01:56 AM
At least he tried to make someting good and we should reconise is hard work :)

Congrats again Cen !

at least your asslicking skilz are fine xD

ba4eq
13th October 2011, 01:59 AM
consider me piking speketr fp

Majestic.
13th October 2011, 02:31 AM
and going bracers

Cen
13th October 2011, 02:43 AM
Liar, this was all serious.

But anyway I loled.

P.S. you gave me idea, soon I will write "mng lichs guide ( you cant fail more than using this guide)" :D.

gogo! :D

Vaikiss
13th October 2011, 12:31 PM
obviously most u have no idea what trolling guide is guess i should make one to point out the differences


and mng better make guide about lion

Majestic.
14th October 2011, 04:03 AM
Enlighten us vaikiss

eXtasY
14th October 2011, 11:30 AM
You noticed Noel didnt post here?

He got faith that he could get positive score once so he is prolly practicing this guide in pubs over and over again before proudly posting how he raped some trapem pros!

At least you're sure one got you serious, Cen :D

Noel nooooooooooooooooooooooob <3

[abdullah]
14th October 2011, 09:07 PM
COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE TO SPECTRE by Cen
-dispersion in early has no real usage, that's why you max it as third


cool story, bro XD

[abdullah]
14th October 2011, 09:08 PM
-dispersion in early has no real usage, that's why you max it as third


cool story, bro XD
Because you dont know this, i will tell you why u max 3rd spellXD
Notes

• Damage type: pure
• Reflected damage is not felt by Spectre, effectively reducing the incoming damage.

eXtasY
15th October 2011, 01:39 PM
This is what happens when you dont listen to Cen and his guide. You lose even with 400 cs.

http://dotabot.net/bots_webpages/balkan/gamestats.php?id=102

p.s. When you are doom against weaver, make sure you cast ulty on Huskar. For more info ask Keka.

Tayschrenn
15th October 2011, 03:41 PM
hahahah ex can't win with spectard against pubbers :D

Cen
15th October 2011, 04:05 PM
This is what happens when you dont listen to Cen and his guide. You lose even with 400 cs.

http://dotabot.net/bots_webpages/balkan/gamestats.php?id=102

p.s. When you are doom against weaver, make sure you cast ulty on Huskar. For more info ask Keka.

No diffusal, nob.


epic CS and even more epic fail xD

IllusionisT
16th October 2011, 12:50 AM
COMPREHENSIVE GUIDE TO SPECTRE by Cen

Just to have some HP so you don't die instantly.. also replacement for vanguard. A lot of ppl buy vang on spec but guess what? They are wrong! Vang does not work with dispersion, worst item ever..srsly.



Vanguard works with dispersion, the thing is enemies receive reduced damage from dispersion as vanguards blocks incoming damage, but with vanguard you survive longer, you deal less dps, but more damage in the long run(hits etc).
without vanguard you just die faster but you deal more dps, i wouldn't say vanguard is a bad item it gives you more than it takes from you.
That's WHY PROS take vanguard, and they're not wrong.
You'll do more damage with radi/manta/power threads/vanguard, than w/e else you make without vanguard.
now, if your facing heroes that doesn't deal dps, for instance
-supporters/initiators etc etc would be best if u skip vanguard, and head for hod.
And 1 more thing i forgot to add, vanguard does not change the amount of damage enemy heroes receive per health spectre loses.


and whats up with the phase boots, seriously when i see phase boots on carry it makes me sick, ofc is good item for chasing IF you go dps build, but what if you go for radi, manta etc etc, when you will focus mostly on the farm, power threads are the best boots for a carry, also you can get few mana from it in situations when you don't have enough to tp etc etc..
or even better, switching them when healing using mana pot etc..
the most viable boots there are.

Vaikiss
16th October 2011, 03:45 AM
Vanguard works with dispersion, the thing is enemies receive reduced damage from dispersion as vanguards blocks incoming damage, but with vanguard you survive longer, you deal less dps, but more damage in the long run(hits etc).
without vanguard you just die faster but you deal more dps, i wouldn't say vanguard is a bad item it gives you more than it takes from you.
That's WHY PROS take vanguard, and they're not wrong.
You'll do more damage with radi/manta/power threads/vanguard, than w/e else you make without vanguard.
now, if your facing heroes that doesn't deal dps, for instance
-supporters/initiators etc etc would be best if u skip vanguard, and head for hod.
And 1 more thing i forgot to add, vanguard does not change the amount of damage enemy heroes receive per health spectre loses.


and whats up with the phase boots, seriously when i see phase boots on carry it makes me sick, ofc is good item for chasing IF you go dps build, but what if you go for radi, manta etc etc, when you will focus mostly on the farm, power threads are the best boots for a carry, also you can get few mana from it in situations when you don't have enough to tp etc etc..
or even better, switching them when healing using mana pot etc..
the most viable boots there are.
yeah sure since clarities and salves give u fixed amount of hp/mana changing threads really help u


about threads and radi LOLK

Lohan
16th October 2011, 04:19 AM
Pre-read notes:
-this only works in pub ap noobs/pro eu
Good

AleLeLElele
16th October 2011, 04:24 AM
This is what happens when you dont listen to Cen and his guide. You lose even with 400 cs.

http://dotabot.net/bots_webpages/balkan/gamestats.php?id=102

p.s. When you are doom against weaver, make sure you cast ulty on Huskar. For more info ask Keka.

keka 10:21 doom xD

[^RawR^]
16th October 2011, 04:14 PM
yeah sure since clarities and salves give u fixed amount of hp/mana changing threads really help u


about threads and radi LOLK

I hope you're joking vaikiss, pls not another failure like explaining the +30/-30 system :S

Cen
16th October 2011, 04:16 PM
I can see the flame war coming! :D

Vaikiss
16th October 2011, 04:23 PM
;1392589']I hope you're joking vaikiss, pls not another failure like explaining the +30/-30 system :S

30/-30 ftw lol

[abdullah]
17th October 2011, 03:58 PM
Vaikiss

here: http://www.playdota.com/heroes

here:http://www.playdota.com/items

And here: http://www.playdota.com/mechanics

good luck:tiphat:

Vaikiss
17th October 2011, 04:31 PM
;1392956']Vaikiss

here: http://www.playdota.com/heroes

here:http://www.playdota.com/items

And here: http://www.playdota.com/mechanics

good luck:tiphat:

wow nice links i never heard about them before where did u find them man ?

Voja
18th October 2011, 04:06 AM
This is what happens when you dont listen to Cen and his guide. You lose even with 400 cs.

http://dotabot.net/bots_webpages/balkan/gamestats.php?id=102

p.s. When you are doom against weaver, make sure you cast ulty on Huskar. For more info ask Keka.

Where is ur diff? >:-( and 2 bracers?!

Fika[F]
18th October 2011, 02:07 PM
Here is my short guide to spectre:

play like Fika and win

Tayschrenn
18th October 2011, 06:44 PM
not funny...

[^RawR^]
18th October 2011, 07:27 PM
http://i56.tinypic.com/oktv5x.png

Vaikiss
18th October 2011, 07:36 PM
Don't play like fika and win*

np fixed

Fika[F]
19th October 2011, 05:03 PM
@tay
wasn't supposed to be funny

@rawr
I am sure you had games with same or worse score, so that pic can just suck my dick


tl;dr
kiss my ass hatters

ToTa-
23rd October 2011, 08:56 PM
Nice ... But I don't agree with all items.

[^RawR^]
23rd October 2011, 10:28 PM
;1393788']@tay
wasn't supposed to be funny

@rawr
i am sure you had games with same or worse score, so that pic can just suck my dick


tl;dr
kiss my ass hatters

<3

Vaikiss
24th October 2011, 07:58 AM
imo rawr vs fika spectre 1v1 to see whos better

Fika[F]
24th October 2011, 01:12 PM
no

[^RawR^]
24th October 2011, 01:59 PM
better gvirus vs fika!

Fika[F]
24th October 2011, 02:39 PM
better no!

Vaikiss
24th October 2011, 04:58 PM
fika scared ?

Voja
27th October 2011, 02:06 PM
fika scared

mezhulol
27th October 2011, 02:35 PM
fika man I love and miss you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDKNfGTitNc

Fika[F]
27th October 2011, 03:53 PM
they remind me of tool a bit, nice song

[RO]Claudiu
12th November 2011, 12:16 AM
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/1/12/128762413941113808.jpg This guide.

Cen
12th November 2011, 01:26 AM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/11/26/129037104316030178.jpg

Silver.
2nd January 2012, 03:25 PM
It's both good and funny as well , it's well written